06 February 2011

PART ONE: CAMERON ON MUSCULAR LIBERALISM BUT WHY NOT SOME ALL ROUND MILITANT ATHEISM AND GUARENTEES FOR FREE SPEECH NOT POLITICALLY CORRECTED!?




      1. Cameron signs up to muscular liberalism | The Spectator

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      1. Muscular Liberalism sounds good but like all ideas can turn into something else, a case in point is Cameron jumping on the Merkel band waggon to use it as a platform from which to promote a British Identity. That might be fine re migrants to England but what about the Cymry/Welsh who might not want to be 'British' and what about migrants who come and live and work in Cymru/Wales particularly those who move to Cymru Cymraeg', not least the English? Jason BBC Wales Radio how's about a Radio discussion on this, your the only one who could handle it sensibly maybe?

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      1. This is all brought up now with the issue of Islamic fundmentalism causing concern and growing Muslim Migration into Britain indeed throughout Europe that is causing great concern even in the Liberal Nordic countries. There as elsewhere issues are now being raised concerning 'Free Speech', a subject exploited by Right Wing Parties as the Danish Peoples Party whom really makes such central to their opposition to Muslim Migration and spread of Islam. However, whislt I am concerned about use and abuse of such issues by the right, I am not one to bury my head and not be critical of Islamic Fundamentalism nor not speak up in case it might be made out to me seen to offend a minority interest be they Muslims or maybe English settlers in Cymru/Wales or for that matter my pet hate 'Y Crachach Newydd' - England's Client Tribe in Wales.

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    Muscular Liberalism especially as Cameron wants to use it to brainwash us all into being 'British' bothers me and sounds a bit bullying, after all were not the 'Liberal Educators' of Imperialism nought but progressive colonists. See examples of Missionaries as Educators in particular not least in case of Native Americans and most certainly regards Hawaii regards the native Liberal Revolt against the traditional native monarchy. The same will be true of the British Empire where not only religion was used as a progressive liberal good but with ulterior motives but so were the 'Master Race' sports as Cricket and Rugby, though the Colonised have turned they around. Though today Football has become an Imperialist/Capitalist Commercial Colonising tool, not least in Africa. However, it is with the liberal progressive export of English Culture, not least stuffing Shakespeare down native throats that attention needs to be also drawn to, not least in Cymru/Wales where the 'Luvees' just love sucking up that Shakespeare stuff!.

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    The point being that as often as not such ideas as 'Muscular Liberalism' can actually mean and does express and advance 'Western Values'. However, this need not automatically mean all such values are bad or evil after all whilst the 'Usual Suspect' left can often be to the fore front today in defence of certain basically reactionary islamic fascist fundametalist values as 'The Rights of Muslim Women' to wear the Burka' etc. Though not 'Forced/Arranged Marraiges' or 'Honour Killings' although one does not hear the 'Usual Suspects' ever protesting too much about such does one? Come of it! please spare us your 'Children of Imperialism' liberal Anxt and hand ringing anquish, Get real! Perhaps your tunnel vision needs desperatly to extend as far as viewing C4 TV documentaries as Unreported World and Dispatches on subjects as both Islamic as well as Jewish Fundamentalism

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    At end of day, I think it boils down to this Europe has learnt the hard way about Religious Fundmentalism/Extremism, yes Religion can do good but as far as Christianity is concerned that is best seen today as it declines, As with what was once called the 'New Left', now in decline it needs to pander to the poor or exploited underprivellaged or minority ethnic interests to build it self a constituency and platform. Prior to this Christianity was hi jacked to serve the remaining days of Roman Imperialism and historically offers a Medieval Master Class in power and tyrrany. Plenty of Cathedrals built on exploited backs of serfs and also Crusades against Pagans, Cathars and Muslims just for starters, later 'Hereitics' and 'Witches' too. Oh yes! might not have stoned women to death for adultry but they could get beheaded or have heavy stones placed on their chests untill suffocated. However, it took the last 500 years of gradual secularism of society via education, establishment of democracy and yeas advance of liberal and progressive political values to 'nueter' and kick into touch as often as not Christian religious extremism which can still lead men to slaughter because God was on their side! be it on the Somme or in Bosnia.

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    However, the main point is that whilst Christian Fundmentalism can be a pain in the ass and some times dangerous, particularly in America as in the militant anti - abortion campaign it's far from being as dangerous as Fundamental Islam can be todat still. Myself consider it to be a Muslim problem as fars as Muslim Societies and Countries are concerned but when it comes to Europe, Brtitain and Cymru/Wales then please leave the worse features of Islamic Fundamentalism at home, I do mean back home that is 'Home Country'. Do not export it into our European Societies. It took us at least 500 years to rid ourselves of 'Christian Cruelty' or rather the misuse of Christianity by the Power Crazy the last thing we want now is 'Islamic Cruelty' or rather misuse of by Muslim Power Crazies who support the Taliban or some other sect!

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    However, I am not going to radically preach down to Muslim peoples on much else, that's their business as they like us will come to sort it all out in due course of time by means of their own 'liberal' values and 'progressive' traditions. That does not mean however, we have to put up with the worse of it while it sorts itself out nor, should we me made to feel that subject matter cannot be discussed or condemned, if needs be. Not least to sort out much as far as Cymru/Wales is concerned lets build a Secular Society but other wise I would rather defer to the Muslim Council of Britain than Cameron's 'Muscular Liberalism' which to my mind does encompass his own brand of Political and Cultural Correctness which like much can be used and abused not least of course to curtail free speech as far as that goes in our Western Capitalist Controlled Media. Do not condemn what you know nothing about always have an open mind and be willing to learn. Why did most of us stop at Ali Baba and Omar Khayyam? the Muslim/Islamic World as much to teach us, indeed where would Europe be without this world maybe back in it's own Medieval backwardness, see links below:

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      As for below 'Global Ifitada' Sigh! where does all this come from, as 'No Borders Anarchists' for most part middle class who cannot cope with idea of getting onto the Council Estates to struggle on behalf of our post Industrial 'Underclass'. as Ian Bones Class War would have. Instead, they leave a vacuum for the BNP and E/WDL to fill, that's fit and fine for you is it not? cannot mix it with ASBO Hoodies, don't blame you, I would not know where to start either but then I am 65. Last year, I went along to a WDL demo and counter demo in Swansea, the WDL crowd had all the appearence of being, yes on the 'Football Hooligan' side of things but generally a none too well dressed or even none too well looking underclass waving Welsh Flags and shouting abuse and useing obscene language. On the otherside of the road seperated by the bored boys in Blue, were a crowd chanting 'The Workers United Shall Never Be Defeated', the irony being that most workers that saturday were in the Retail Therapy Park or in the Shopping Mall. Indeed, most of the anti - WDL protesters other than a few Trade Unionists, I guess by their general 'Well Heeled' MTV generation look where Students or Sixth Formers and more than likly had never done a day's work in their life unless was the family car for pocket money.

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      They were waving the Plalestinian Flag now, I see also the flag of the Global Intifada, think these possibly McDonalds Birthday Party generation need to consider an home grown Adfywiad, that is an ADFYWIAD GOCH!

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    There is a Part Two to above but before you move on, I suggest you read below:

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    To follow in next post Cameron on Multi - Culturalism.

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