THE GREAT DEWI DEBATE RAMBLES ON BUT WELSH REPUBLICANS ARE NOTICIBLE BY THEIR SILENCE, What Nothing To Say On These Matters? Whatever it seems to be grabbing attention of Socialists world wide? Maybe there will be a demonstration, myself, I repeat, oppose Demonstrations against the Parade but do not oppose Protests against English Lords, any time and any place, if your up for it? do it! I have been there and bought the T-Shirt, your turn now maybe?
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However, the below has come to my attention from out of a web forum (see below) which is somewhat disturbing, I really cannot see it as being true, surely not? Read the below, and note in particular that part marked in red. This must be some kind of 'BLACK PROPAGANDA', if not true, then parade Organisers need to issue public statements refuting it. If it is true, and I cannot see the ''Nationalist/Republican'' Dydd Dewi Parade organisers being so foolish as this, but if it is true? then it might mean that mass Nationalist, Republican and Socialist demonstrations against the parade might indeed have to be called for? SOME ONE CHECK THIS OUT AND LET ME KNOW IF THERE IS ANY TRUTH IN IT? Now Read On>>>>
. Udo Erasmus commits a cardinal sin for a socialist: failing to differentiate between an oppressed and an oppressor nation. While it is true that Wales is now an integrated part of the British state and is not oppressed as a nation by England today (though a disturbingly high proportion of Welsh leftists seem to think there's a direct parallel with Israel and Palestine), it certainly was oppressed as a nation historically, aspects of anti-Welsh prejudice and marginalisation still exist and the right of the Welsh people to self-determination, if we so choose, is unquestionable. International socialism will never be achieved by trampling on the national aspirations of smaller nations or by demeaning their sense of national identity. One of Lenin's first acts after the 1917 revolution was to support the secession of Ukraine – a measure later reversed by Stalin, using a similar justification to Udo Erasmus here. This doesn't mean that socialists should advocate independence for Wales – far from it. Most Welsh workers recognise that their interests will not be promoted by secession. And the idea promoted by the Fourth International (Pabloism) that petit-bourgeois independence movements would lead the way to socialism proved disastrously wrong. The most striking thing about this year's St Davids Day events, however, is that they intend to celebrate the supposed glorious work done by Welsh soldiers in the UK army invading two sovereign nations. What socialists should be doing, rather than making ultra-left calls to abandon national sentiments altogether, is to call on the people of Wales to boycott the event involving the Royal Welsh regiment on the grounds that it actually celebrates national oppression.Anyone agreeing with this is warmly invited to visit http://cardiffpr.wordpress.com/
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Now Read below the National/International Socialist and Welsh Nationalist Debate, I await the Welsh Republican debate?
.St David's Day - COUNTER DEMO - urban75 forums - 15 Feb Much as I detest the St David's Day parade's vacuous flag-waving, I'm tempted to organise a counter-demo to the counter-demo. ...www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=7101678 - 127k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
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St David's Day - COUNTER DEMO - Page 6 - urban75 forums - 14:36 Page 6-St David's Day - COUNTER DEMO Wales/Cymru. ... People may be interested to hear that Ieuan Wyn Jones won't be in Cardiff on the parade, by the way. ...www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=239885&page=6 - 130k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
St David's Day - COUNTER DEMO - Page 6 - urban75 forums - 14:36 Page 6-St David's Day - COUNTER DEMO Wales/Cymru. ... People may be interested to hear that Ieuan Wyn Jones won't be in Cardiff on the parade, by the way. ...www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=239885&page=6 - 130k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
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The Witanagemot Club - Winners' Enclosure - 13 Feb 2008/2/19 21:21:00. Description: Whilst I am being condemned by Plaid supporters .... a counter demonstration against the St David's day parade in Cardiff. ...www.toque.co.uk/witan/modules/xhld2/index.php?id=17 - 46k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
The Witanagemot Club - Winners' Enclosure - 13 Feb 2008/2/19 21:21:00. Description: Whilst I am being condemned by Plaid supporters .... a counter demonstration against the St David's day parade in Cardiff. ...www.toque.co.uk/witan/modules/xhld2/index.php?id=17 - 46k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
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Socialism Blog Entries // Blog Post Tag Search // BlogCatalog WesternFront America February 17th 2008 by Hans Gruen .... who wishes to arrange a counter demonstration against the St David's day parade in Cardiff. ...www.blogcatalog.com/post-tag/socialism/ - 30k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
Socialism Blog Entries // Blog Post Tag Search // BlogCatalog WesternFront America February 17th 2008 by Hans Gruen .... who wishes to arrange a counter demonstration against the St David's day parade in Cardiff. ...www.blogcatalog.com/post-tag/socialism/ - 30k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
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Miserable Old Fart: And they wonder why I hate socialism! The following quote is from a socialist who wishes to arrange a counter demonstration against the St David's day parade in Cardiff. ...miserableoldfart.blogspot.com/2008/02/and-they-wonder-why-i-hate-socialism.html - 119k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
Miserable Old Fart: And they wonder why I hate socialism! The following quote is from a socialist who wishes to arrange a counter demonstration against the St David's day parade in Cardiff. ...miserableoldfart.blogspot.com/2008/02/and-they-wonder-why-i-hate-socialism.html - 119k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
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UK Political Blog Feeds In 2008-2009, the Centre for Women will publish two new publications related to ..... a counter demonstration against the St David's day parade in Cardiff. ...www.voidstar.com/ukpoliblog/index.php/cid/7 - 228k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
UK Political Blog Feeds In 2008-2009, the Centre for Women will publish two new publications related to ..... a counter demonstration against the St David's day parade in Cardiff. ...www.voidstar.com/ukpoliblog/index.php/cid/7 - 228k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
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Tailrank - Posts for 'http://blogs.reuters.com'
Thumbnail for http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2008/ .... who wishes to arrange a counter demonstration against the St David's day parade in Cardiff. ...tailrank.com/posts/source/2533274790408320/blogs.reuters.com - 134k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
Tailrank - Posts for 'http://blogs.reuters.com'
Thumbnail for http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2008/ .... who wishes to arrange a counter demonstration against the St David's day parade in Cardiff. ...tailrank.com/posts/source/2533274790408320/blogs.reuters.com - 134k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this
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Bethan Jenkins AC/AM - 2 visits - 17:44 It is too easy a hit for Alwyn ap Huw to place a few said Plaid Socialists ... Bethan Jenkins. bethan: Aelod Cynulliad Plaid Cymru dros Gorllewin De Cymru ...bethanjenkins.blogspot.com/ - 179k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this.
IT'S SAD BUT TRUE, I HAVE TO REMIND WELSH NATIONALISTS, REPUBLICANS AND SOCIALISTS OF ONE OF OUR OLDEST CALLS TO ACTION, THAT IS>>>>'TRECH GWLAD NAG ARGLWYDD'.
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Gethin.
