26 May 2010

WELSH INDEPENDENCE! What Are The Options? What Is The Reality of the Welsh Independence Issue?

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Well! To start with one must take aboard the fact, that what Country any where in today's world can truelly be Independent? Then also, lets face facts, that if all Welsh Political Parties support Wales being part of the European 'Evil' Empire, then by virtue of this fact it implies our National Sovereignty = Independence has in been surrendered, that it's a sell out of our Sovereinghty any way. This 'National Sovereignty' was of course founded on the Sovereignty of a Native Welsh Royality, see links below >
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This 'Royal National Sovereignty', lost in 1282 but regained during Owain Glyndwr's War of National Liberation, then lost again upon demise of that struggle. However, there is still an arguement which still seeks restoration of 'Welsh Sovereignty' on this medieval connection, see link below >
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Perhaps unfortunatly, Wales never rose to occaision of a post French Revolution struggle for 'Popular Soverighty' that might have led to a Welsh Republic, sad to say but true radical 18th century radicals as 'Cultual Romantic Nationalist' Iolo Morgannwg were 'British Republicans' in same way as are Guardianesque 'British Republicans' today. Whilst 19th Century Welsh Romantic Radicals/Cultural Nationalists would support a Welsh Chartism that sought a British Republic, although the English Chartist Henry Vincent thought Wales would make a fine Republic! But, I think he meant a Southern Welsh Republic which such contemporary Welsh Republicans as Harri Webb (R.I.P.) called a 'Silurian Republic'. Now being sought by Llais Glywysing, see my contraversial new blog, am I serious, you decide! Unfortunatly attempts to establish Welsh Republican Movements have not been too successful, see link >
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Welsh Republican Movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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See also Welsh Monarchist and Republicans. The Welsh Republican Movement (Welsh: Mudiad Gweriniaethol Cymru) was a Welsh nationalist political party. ...
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There has existed a number attempts at following in footsteps of WRM I but to no avail, there are a number of so called 'Welsh Republican' groups (or may be Police 'Sting Sites' as well?) but most are derisery and more likly are ''republican'' only in sense of 'up the IRA & 1916!' aka followers of a Retro Republicanism made popular by such as Cayo and Coslett FWA Commandants (R.I.P.) during the 'Sixties', see link >
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Alternative Welsh Nationalist Archive

An Archive of material record informing on Alternative Welsh Nationalism, Movement and Struggle 1946 - 2006. This archive will contain a material record of ...
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What ever, the point is, that a Welsh Republican struggle for a Welsh 'Popular Sovereignty' does not count for much at moment, of course that could all change over the coming years. As Welsh Republicans will have 'Opportunity of Occaisions' to 'Seize The Time' in campaigns opposing English Queen's Diamond Jubilee Celebrations in 2012 and 1953 Coronation Commemoration in 2013,we shall see if ''Welsh Republicans'' can walk the walk or are just talk! talk! talk! Whatever, such campaigns could provide 'umbrella and platform' out of which a new Welsh Republican Movement may arise, to struggle for 'Popular Soveignhty' and Welsh Republican form of Welsh Independence?
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Welsh Independence - The Background >
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    How Welsh Independence is percieved outside Wales >
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    Tomorrow Wales Blog

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    Welsh Independence

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      To conclude, I suggest to one and all who are pro - Welsh Independnce or more powers for the Welsh Assembly, please stop dithering! do something patriotically practical with great purpose, in the first instance commit to getting up to Machynlleth to commemorate and celebrate 'Dydd y Senedd 1404' on 19 Mehefin 2004. There, have yourselves a 'Patriots Picnic' in grounds of Y Plas whilst those really up for Welsh Independence hold yourselves a 'SOAP BOX NATION' discussion as what to do next very quickly. In this direction please note I again direct you towards SOFRANIAETH Blog. Keeping in mind these priorities:
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      1: Getting the Independence Question on the Referendum vote paper, move fast to bring pessure to bear asap! Make this an issue via media letter campaigns etc.
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      2: Kicking off asap the Pro - Independance 'RADICAL' Refendum Campaign asap! To save time just do it! via SOFRANIAETH S.O.S. Campaign. C'mon Cymry arise & awake!
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      3: Get active, get on to the streets and into the shopping Malls and outside the super markets. Make a noise and wave the flag. Waste Time and You Waste Wales!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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      Finnaly, stop the Plaid Cymru - Cymry Creeping 'Soft Shoe Shuffle' style of politics, that has got us absolutly no where, you would be extremly foolish to sit around waiting for Plaid Cymru to get going as they like other politicians are in main concerned with themselves - Self Interest and Self Advancement! IT IS NOW UP TO YOU THE 'RANK & FILE' RADICAL REPUBLICANS & PROGRESSIVE NATIONALISTS. Do it! or Wales is DOOMED and you better believe it! Do'nt say, I did'nt tell you ok!
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      Gethin ap Gruffydd.

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